Temaet for i år er Resilience som teamet har valgt, og jeg har valgt undertemaet Blomster, træer og forfædre, så lad os se, hvad der falder mig ind til det tema.
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Every day at noon (except Sundays) a new A-Z post goes live - or no post today.
The theme for this year is Resilience as given by the team, with my subtitle Flowers, Trees and Ancestors.
X for Extra
Der er masser af løse ender og mysterier efter sådan en omgang. Det første hængeparti er købmandens børn
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There's many a dangling end or unsolved mystery at the end of such a time-travel. The first such is the children of the energetic grocers' couple on Svinø. 
Min mormor og hendes søskende
Så vidt jeg ved og har kunnet finde ud af var det kun Carl Robert, der ikke blev gift.
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My grandmother and her siblings.
As far as I know and have been able to find out, only Carl Robert did not marry.
Tilbage til købmanden og hans butik. Jeg har fundet en hel del billeder på Arkiv.dk - man må kun linke, så det gør jeg flittigt.
Allerførst et billede af købmandsbutikken. LINK Der står godt nok at købmandsbutikken tilhører Frede Jensen, men han overtog først købmandsbutikken og det tilhørende telefonnummer Svinøland 24, i 1947.
Også på Arkiv.dk LINK ligger der et postkort af købmand Rasmus Hansen, hans kone Maren Kirstine, hans søster - hvilken vides ikke, han havde jo to, men jeg gætter på lillesøster Ane Kirstine, da storesøster blev gift med en møller i Skanderborg - og så en ukendt mand. Søsterens mand, måske?
Hvis man sammenligner med de billeder, som jeg har af parret, kan man se, at mine billeder er et udsnit af dette postkort.
LINK Her ser man det indre af Svinø kirke. På væggen ved alteret hænger der et stort, hvidt billede. Det er et hæklet Fadervor udført af Hilleborg Marie, den yngste datter. Hun var også telefonistinde på den telefoncentral, købmand Rasmus fik installeret i eller ved sin butik.
Hilleborg kan dog højst have virket som telefondame frem til 1937, hvor hun blev gift, for gifte kvinder forventedes ikke at kunne holde det, de hørte, hemmeligt for deres mænd.
Back to the grocer, his family and his shop. At arkiv.dk I found some photos, copying forbidden, but links are OK, so here's a lot of links.
First a photo of the grocery store. LINK It does say that the grocery store belongs to Frede Jensen, but he only took over the grocery store and the associated telephone number Svinøland 24, in 1947.
Also on Arkiv.dk LINK is a postcard of grocer Rasmus Hansen, his wife Maren Kirstine, his sister - which one is not known and he had two, but I place my bet on his younger sister Ane Kirstine, as the older sister married a miller in Skanderborg - and then an unknown man. The sister's husband, perhaps?
If you compare with the pictures I have of the couple, you can see that my pictures are a cropped version of this postcard.
LINK Here you see the interior of Svinø church. On the wall near the altar you see a large, white picture. It is a crocheted Lord's Prayer made by Hilleborg Marie, the youngest daughter. She was also a telephone operator at the telephone exchange that Rasmus the grocer had installed in his shop. However, Hilleborg could at most have worked as a telephone operator until 1937, when she got married, because married women were not expected to be able to keep what they heard on the line a secret from their husbands.
Her er et totalt dårligt kopi fra K.T.A.S telefonbog for 1920.
As far as I know and have been able to find out, only Carl Robert did not marry.
X ~ X
Tilbage til købmanden og hans butik. Jeg har fundet en hel del billeder på Arkiv.dk - man må kun linke, så det gør jeg flittigt.
Allerførst et billede af købmandsbutikken. LINK Der står godt nok at købmandsbutikken tilhører Frede Jensen, men han overtog først købmandsbutikken og det tilhørende telefonnummer Svinøland 24, i 1947.
Også på Arkiv.dk LINK ligger der et postkort af købmand Rasmus Hansen, hans kone Maren Kirstine, hans søster - hvilken vides ikke, han havde jo to, men jeg gætter på lillesøster Ane Kirstine, da storesøster blev gift med en møller i Skanderborg - og så en ukendt mand. Søsterens mand, måske?
Hvis man sammenligner med de billeder, som jeg har af parret, kan man se, at mine billeder er et udsnit af dette postkort.
LINK Her ser man det indre af Svinø kirke. På væggen ved alteret hænger der et stort, hvidt billede. Det er et hæklet Fadervor udført af Hilleborg Marie, den yngste datter. Hun var også telefonistinde på den telefoncentral, købmand Rasmus fik installeret i eller ved sin butik.
Hilleborg kan dog højst have virket som telefondame frem til 1937, hvor hun blev gift, for gifte kvinder forventedes ikke at kunne holde det, de hørte, hemmeligt for deres mænd.
X ~ X
Back to the grocer, his family and his shop. At arkiv.dk I found some photos, copying forbidden, but links are OK, so here's a lot of links.
First a photo of the grocery store. LINK It does say that the grocery store belongs to Frede Jensen, but he only took over the grocery store and the associated telephone number Svinøland 24, in 1947.
Also on Arkiv.dk LINK is a postcard of grocer Rasmus Hansen, his wife Maren Kirstine, his sister - which one is not known and he had two, but I place my bet on his younger sister Ane Kirstine, as the older sister married a miller in Skanderborg - and then an unknown man. The sister's husband, perhaps?
If you compare with the pictures I have of the couple, you can see that my pictures are a cropped version of this postcard.
LINK Here you see the interior of Svinø church. On the wall near the altar you see a large, white picture. It is a crocheted Lord's Prayer made by Hilleborg Marie, the youngest daughter. She was also a telephone operator at the telephone exchange that Rasmus the grocer had installed in his shop. However, Hilleborg could at most have worked as a telephone operator until 1937, when she got married, because married women were not expected to be able to keep what they heard on the line a secret from their husbands.
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Her er et totalt dårligt kopi fra K.T.A.S telefonbog for 1920.
A totally fuzzy copy from the telephone register for the year 1920.
Nummer 24 - R Hansen Købmd. (Centralbest. K.T.A.S) Svinø: Kolonial, Isenkram, Vin & Cigarer
Number 24 - R Hansen Grocer. (Master of Telephone exchange K.T.A.S) Svinø: Groceries, Hardware, Vine & Cigars
Number 24 - R Hansen Grocer. (Master of Telephone exchange K.T.A.S) Svinø: Groceries, Hardware, Vine & Cigars
(K.T.A.S is an acronym for Kjøbenhavns Telefon Aktie-Selskab - the telephone network, that began operating in Copenhagen, spread to all Zealand and gradually all Denmark).
Married women couldn't keep secrets from their husbands? I am laughing (and groaning) at that mistake.
SvarSletYes I would rather trust a married woman, than one with a boyfriend to impress - and the same goes for a man :)
SletBut look below for the reason behind the rule.
SletThese are nice extras to make the whole work of tracing your ancestors more joyful.
SvarSletOh, the opportunities women were denied back in the day, and for such silly reasons.
Those extras were joyful, and more is to come.
SletI think we've go to look at the job of telephone operator the other way around.
1. Married women were not supposed to work outside the home, their skills and labour were necessary to run a home.
2. It was an all female workplace. So your honour was unmarred even if you worked out of home. And also no harassment.
3. It was a rather difficult position to obtain, you had to be of unblemished conduct and reputaton, speak politely and clearly, be over 20 years of age, and pass a test of skills.
It actually was an opportunity for an honest, well paid, not physically hard job for unmarried women. Many held this job into their forties and were promoted to "overseer" for a telephone central, a job giving status and good wages.
An extra vomment: The "not being married because the woman could talk to her husband" was not because of gossip, but for causes of competition. Think a husbond having a shop, and the competitioner ordering something new and exiting, with the operator listening. Now what ... tell husband so that he may do a counter-move, or obey wow of silence and maybe risk lesser income / bankrupcy for hubby?
SletDilemmas of this kind was the reason.
Thank you for that explanation. It makes a lot more sense now.
Slet